Back Country Binders 4x4

Back Country Binders 4x4 4x4 & International Harvester specialist. New and Used parts sales. Retail of parts you would normally find at the brand name stores, only better.

Full/Partial Restoration, Repowers, Repairs, Maintance, Upgrades, Welding, Fabrication, Vehicle project inspections & evaluations, as well as planning & coaching guidance service. Welding and Fabrication facility (scratch built or repair). Manufacturer of Suspension and aftermarket parts for Internationa Harvesters. Service and repair of your offroad vehicle. Wholesaler of auto parts and 4x4 componentry.

07/30/2026

A topic I see come up more than id like to see is a person trying to decide what product to buy between several examples made and sold by a few different companies. To be clear Im not talking about reselling of varioys companies parts bought wholesale and resold by several vendors.

Anyway seeing these posts remindsme of how things have changed in the business environment today that affects end users and the original producers.
This post is about many products that have been "Copied", rippedoff, bootleged etc.
A new product is introduced and brought to the IH community by one IH vendor and soon several other companies copied, tried to copy the same part and make it available. This is something that has bothered several vendors I know of, myself included, because a few of their products have been ripped off and copied. Some by multiple vendors even ๐Ÿคฏ

Lets discuss the detrimental aspect that these copy cat companies do to the IH Community we love so much when they knowingly do this. Its sad to see so many companies copying another companies hard work just to eliminate having to buy from them only to make an additional few bucks in profit.๐Ÿคฌ Its especially disrespectful to do so whrn the company bringing out a copy has bought wholesale from the original producing company.

When a company allocates resources in order to copy a product and sell it, one of the biggest things it does is harm the community as a whole. Allow me to explain. When a company takes their money and valuable time to copy a product thats already in existence and can be purchased it robs the community. It is an especially sh*tty ๐Ÿ’ฉ to make this move because thoes SAME resources and time could have been used to create a new product thats not currently offered in the community to help us all keep our sweet Internationals functioning and making memories. The community benefits by now having two different products needed for our vehicles. The OG IH businesses back in the day recall when it was a point of fact that us IH owners had different vehicles, and old school morals and values just like thoes people that built these fine rigs for us at the factory plants. We as vendors were proud to not be like other Vehicle specific vendors. Thoes 7-10 of us manufacturing vendors back in the earlie years after IH stopped making vehicles all refused to be like Jeep, Bronco or Toyota companie (to name a few big examples). We didnt copy but chose to buy from one another as we were friends helping to preserve these fine rigs. If one of us upset the other, we talked it out and made โœŒ๐Ÿผ peace. We set aside any personal differences or egos and maintained that business bond and sense of showing the world we were different, better, and more proud to represent America and America's traits that made us a special nation. I bought from you when you made something or reproduced a part no one else did and you bought my product that I brought to market to help the customers improve their IH vehicles and keep them on the road for all to enjoy seeing. Sometimes we even collaborated or bought an end users part they could not or did not want to scale up and offer the masses. It was a glorious time and one im proud to have been involved in first hand in the 1990s early 2000's.

If a product was made that overlapped or was used in the same place, there were fundamentals differences, features, looks and added benifits that were desirable. Shackles fir instance. We all had our own style and look and it wasn't copying because this was just basic flat steel not a complex part at all. We never copied a unique product just to hurt the other companys sales or gain a few bucks more, nor did we engage in purposeful undercutting and or price fixing tactics. We were better than that and didnt need to do thoes shameful things to make a buck. It was always friendly competition in the act itself of coming out with the next new product that helped the vehicle owners (customers). It was not about see i made the same thing as you.

Today the landscape of IH Specialty manufacturers and even shops that may make one part looks all to similar to the Toyota, Bronco, Jeep companies that all have near identical products. One comes out with it and soon, often within months or the same year, the others have the same product. Often times they are all but impossible to differentiate to the end user.

That said I can appreciate when a similar product comes out later that takes a concept that has stayed the same for a while and adds value and function by including additional features, benifits, refinements and addresses the requests from the consumer that they have been asking for or mentioning would be cool if it also did this ". At times even suggestions to the original producer that have fallen on deft ears. If a company doesn't keep up with trends, product refinement by trying to improve their product then its inevitable that someone else will undertake the task of making something that addresses the public demand and desire. Thats on the company for not listening to its customers.

Also on occassions there is reasons to manufacture a clone. Availability, or inability to purchase the parts from the original maker for whatever reason. The original maker has gone out of business, the original had design flaws that were a safety concern, etc etc.
Will copying ever stop now that its been going on? Once a wealthy owned cutthroat company copied directly the first few products of the other companies and publicly stated there was "no patent on it because I checked". Then it hsppened :( ....many of the rest of the IH vendor community seemed to think this was morally okay and threw tradition out the window for the oppertunity to make a buck. Some companies even started up and their first product was a copy of another companies.

In closing I say this:
๐Ÿ’ฅTO my fellow IH Vendors that may see this; Just because you can, doesnt mean you should. I get that being h copied is the ultimate formof flattery.... but just say NO TO THIS PRACTICE. Compliment the original maker. Be that better company that refers a person to another company's part ... dont just copy directly. We still have a chance to maintain a different look to outsiders and show them IH business people are not sheep and follow suite to how other brand specific companies choose to act. Be different, be unique, be that 1 of a kind for the betterment of the IH Community. :)
๐Ÿ’ฅ To the enthusiasts;
Please consider supporting the original IH vendor that makes a product, especially if your just buying that one product. I get if your buying a whole bunch of items and trying to one-stop shop. Its more spendy to pay separate S&H to buy the one item from a different place but sometimes supporting a smaller guy making something will help that guy go on to make way cooler things that you were a small part of.
Please feel free to discuss your views and opinions, that's why posted this. It's good to openly address topics like this.

๐Ÿ˜’Things๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿป that make you really wonder.. ๐Ÿซฃ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ™„ hmmmm ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚Doing freeze plugs on the back of intake manifold, Heater core repl...
07/20/2026

๐Ÿ˜’Things๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿป that make you really wonder.. ๐Ÿซฃ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ™„ hmmmm ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚
Doing freeze plugs on the back of intake manifold, Heater core replacment Details matter folks. :) Full post coming later but thought id see if the detail people can spot anything.

What do you get when you cross a Foodie, a International Harvester Metro Van, an entrapenuer and a bag of ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ต๐Ÿค‘? Id hazza...
06/11/2026

What do you get when you cross a Foodie, a International Harvester Metro Van, an entrapenuer and a bag of ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ต๐Ÿค‘?
Id hazzard a guess that this American Badass knows exactly!!
The only thing id change is serving up a badass MicroBrew craft beer instead of Miller Time.

What do you guys think?

Made some sweet brakelines for a few  customers yesterday in our Special IH color sceam. ๐Ÿ’ฅCustomer 1 got a Full set of F...
06/09/2026

Made some sweet brakelines for a few customers yesterday in our Special IH color sceam.

๐Ÿ’ฅCustomer 1 got a Full set of Front and Rear Scout 2 brake lines to fit a Reverse Shackle with 4" leaf Springs
Suspension setup and a Deviation from stock axle setup. We used the IH connections on the frame side and GM Caliper fittings on the axle end because this D44 has a highly modified front axle. The rear used a 8.8 Axle.๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ

๐Ÿ’ฅ Customer 2 got A set of our proprietary Master cyclinder to Combination Valve lines again in our exclusive IH color pattern. This customer was having troulble getting the InlineTube brand Stainless steel hardline kit to seal up with no leaks and called us for the solution to end his misery. ๐Ÿค—

Thank you ๐Ÿค๐Ÿปguys for putting the trust in us๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ to keep your family safe and stop your drivable investment ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ต when failure is NOT an option.

To thoes reading this, get ahold of us to send you a MADE IN THE USA top tier Brake Line setup for your awesome project. If I dont already have your IH specific line blueprinted with the formula saved you can send me your old lines to copy. Costs vary but are not a whole lot more than rubber and dont deterioriate. Typically about $15/$20 more per line AND will last 3+ times longer than rubber while providing more benifits. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

06/02/2026

I wanted to extend my support to Chance (AKA Warren LC from IH building in 509) and his family as his oldest son Tyler and his girlfriend Hanna were in a major car accident. We always want the best for our fellow Washingtonians, Scout builders and IH service shops and community members throughout the country.
Here is hoping for the best possible surgery outcomes and recovery afterwards for all thoes involved. Sending my best here as I wasnt able to leave a personal comment on his post.
PS: Chance Thinking of yall & give me a call sometime when its convienant for you. ;)
Regards
John

Who loves the S, L or the R lines of trucks? Post a Pic of yours!!
05/29/2026

Who loves the S, L or the R lines of trucks? Post a Pic of yours!!

Pickup trucks were made for work. Until the first purpose-built ones rolled off American assembly lines in the early 20th century, people DIY-ed their own.

All time personal best and possibly a world record emergency room visit today. Elbow was swelling up bad after a small a...
05/18/2026

All time personal best and possibly a world record emergency room visit today.
Elbow was swelling up bad after a small abrasion cut from past weeks healed over. Probaley didnt clean it as well as I should have. Got some antibiotics and on my way home in 45 minutes. Crazy

05/15/2026

To quote Yosemity Sam...
"WHAT IN TARNATION??"

๐Ÿ’ฅThoughts or sympathy, im open to both๐Ÿ’ฅ
๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜‚Hahaa๐Ÿซฃ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿง๐Ÿ˜ฆ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ‘€

But for real WTH? Who designed this?
Props ๐Ÿค—AND๐Ÿ‘ a discount on Shipping/Handeling of any of our products if you can guess the motor!!

Well Mondays winding down, and im about recovered from the weekend event. As some may know from my prior posts I took Sa...
05/12/2026

Well Mondays winding down, and im about recovered from the weekend event. As some may know from my prior posts I took Saturday morning to go to the Scout Motors Seattle meet and greet event at The Shop Club Seattle that I was invited to.
I went to see the new Scout Traveler and Terra prototype vehicles and also to display an old Scout 2 with about 19 others that brought their old International Harvesters to the event.

It was a pretty cool event and pretty neat to see these prototypes in person. I learned some interesting details when asking questions about certain aspects of the vehicles. One thing stood out, the talk about air ride suspension options that are adjustable!!
They were even open to hearing some feedback as I spoke with one of the ScoutMotors team members about the size of the opening on the rear hatch of the Traveler needing enlarged and a cooler option in the Frunk. The new vehicles are pretty sharp and thought out in design. I really like the lines of the Traveler, and am still not sure why they didn't go full removable top like the newest Broncos have. But they have time to consider all the data they get from feedback and I love that they are open to hearing from professionals like myself that have allot of exposure and time working with the old vehicles and their owners. The excitment from the crowd was neat to see and perhaps the only time in my life I will get so see this process of reviving a Legend taking place. So hats off to them for what they are trying to achieve and the effort to keep the traditions and ways of the old company alive in current times. I hope to create some accessories for the new rigs in the future. ;)

Also great was getting to see many vehicles i have either personally worked on, or supplied parts to their owners for. Nice catching up with some IH people that I became friends with 25-30 years ago and meeting their kids and families. Yea recognizing parts you hand built and sold years and even decades ago that are helping these old Internationals stay on the road today is very satisfying and im honored to be a piece of that history. Having some of you excited to introduce yourself to me, or talk to me was very nice. Thank you for seeking me out and remembering me. To the twin son's that made your momthatshirt with her scout pictured and named on it, you two are awesome. She was so happy itwas great tossed and hear the story about it. ๐Ÿฅฐ

Mark Ashford, Patrick Decker Dave King good seeing you guys and your families. Randy Morgan it was a pleasure to meet your son and his family :). Dan Hayes it went by so fast I didnt get a chance to congratulate you and Pebbles on getting married, but got to see the cool job you two did on her 800 with the paint. Congrats you two, and wish you all the best.๐Ÿค—
HOS nice to see you and cool stickers. I'll have to try some of the coffee you roast to show support. :)
To the others I met, nice meeting you and im sure ill hear from you again someday, probaley when you need something for your IH. ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜

I agree with some fellow binders that we need to have some kind of NWBinders / IHSTO reunion event sometime. Even if its just weekend at Natches or someplace. A cruise night, etc. :)
My pictures are not that great, but Scott Hesse took some really nice ones & ill post a link to where he posted them in the comment section below. . I wish I could do an open picture folder where anyone can add pictures to it from this weekends event. Be neat to see them all in one place. Not sure but im open to learning how to do that. Think I recall a way on FB to do that.

Anyway just a neat and different kind of event. Pkease feel free to share, comment, and like this post or add your pictures on the comments below.
Happy Harvesting
Regards
John

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