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Morning everyone, setting sag is a misunderstood often forgotten portion of getting a motorcycle to not only go around c...
21/08/2026

Morning everyone, setting sag is a misunderstood often forgotten portion of getting a motorcycle to not only go around corners but also in a straight line.

For the most part, riders read a specification in a magazine (yes Im old) online of from their mates, generally whatever they put into their bike as a setting will be wrong but for different reasons.

The actual mesuring of sag Im not set on, measure it however you want, but make it repeatable otherwise it’s useless.

For the most part that will be standing, in mx and off road, sitting for road, and measure in line with the arc of travel.

Pritty simple so far. Oi.

So for the how why what.

The actual sag number is generated because we need the suspension to extend as well as compress, if we are riding along and there is a hole or depression, we need the suspension (and more so the rear suspension) to extend into the depression otherwise we loose tyre to ground traction and we get wheel spin, loss of control and so on, all of this is also exacerbated by slow rebound damping but that’s another day.

In general ride sag is set as wheel travel devided by 3. So 100/3=33.333mm , 310/3=103.333mm and so on, from there we make an allowance for the use, we wouldn’t run 305mm sag on forks for example, and the bikes geometry which is also for another day, and even the way a bike flexes or a rider uses their riding style to influence the bike.

The biggest deviation for setting sag that Im going to portray is that changing preload is easier to think of if we think in the manner of ride height adjustment rather than turns, so the more preload we apply to a spring (the more stored potential energy) the less sag but also the higher the bike sits in relation to the ground.

We can then use sag in this manner to influence what handling character our bike has, more sag on the rear (without changing the front) will give the bike more stability but more effort is needed to turn and the bike will wheelie more on exit. Less rear sag, less stable, easier to turn but more wheel spin on exit.

So what we are looking for is a balance so that we have some suspension travel for the dips, traction, turning, stability, nimble setting.

Well consider that motorcycle react more like fighter jets so all of the settings work in conjunction and at the same times as one another, if you have a soft fork spring or compression setting the bike will always dive under brakes excessively inducing instability in the braking bumps.

Now ive also introduced the fork sag setting as a concept here, it’s something near all riders and quite a few shops don’t consider, but the concept is the same, fork sag is still needed, it still influences handling and so is still an important measurement to consider.

So the numbers. For my kx250 the sweet spot is forks 52mm shock 112mm measured with me standing in the riding position, forks 5mm plus cap 4.9N fork springs at 6mm preload, but the truth is you’re not going to find the sweet spot in that setting nor a magazine, get out and ride, make a change, ride again.

And that’s what the sat morning setup days are all about at the workshop, and it’s also why I don’t do these setup days at the race track.

Have a great weekend, Im still in France, Aiden and William have a few more days competing in world championships, but on the plane in how many days Robynne?

Enjoy - Craig

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17/08/2026

Entries are open for 2026 Transmoto 12-Hour at Batemans Bay on October 24–25

At least give your best mate half a chance and book in for a suspension service.

16/08/2026

**WHY DO FORKS FEEL HARSH?**

A harsh fork isn’t necessarily a fork with “too much damping”.

Quite often, the real problem is **how quickly the damping force rises**.

Old damper-rod forks relied heavily on fixed-or***ce damping. As shaft velocity increases, the pressure required to force oil through that restriction rises very rapidly. The result is the sharp, square-edge hit riders describe as harshness.

Modern shim valves were developed largely to get away from that behaviour.

But here’s the problem:

You can have modern cartridges, pistons and shim stacks and still create something that behaves remarkably like an old or***ce-damped fork if the flow path and valve opening characteristics are wrong.

Another version of harshness comes from **opening force**.

If a valve requires significant pressure before it begins to move, the wheel has to generate that force before the suspension can respond. That might work brilliantly in Supercross where huge damping forces and chassis control are required, but it does not automatically give you the compliance and mid-corner grip an enduro or motocross rider needs.

That’s why simply winding the compression clicker out often doesn’t fix a genuinely harsh fork.

The clicker changes bleed.

It does **not** redesign the damping curve.

The important question isn’t only:

**“How much damping does this fork make?”**

It is:

**“How is that damping being generated as velocity increases?”**

That distinction is where a lot of suspension tuning goes wrong.

**Mountain Race Shop Technical Series 003 — What Causes Fork Harshness?**

Full article and engineering graphs are now in the Knowledge Centre:

https://www.mountainraceshop.com.au/knowledge-centre/what-causes-fork-harshness/

**Harshness is rarely caused by one damping number. It is created by the way damping is generated.**

Craig Dixon
Suspension Engineer
Mountain Race Shop™

Circus moves onto world pairs tomorrow, this crazy team finished 10th overall on some very difficult horses. I’ve lost a...
16/08/2026

Circus moves onto world pairs tomorrow, this crazy team finished 10th overall on some very difficult horses.

I’ve lost all bearing on how long until Im back but it’s under 2 weeks and really looking forward to jumping on a plane

14/08/2026

A great artical that was recently published and peer reviewed that supports the math and premise of the Suspension Engineers Handbook I wrote earlier in the year

WHY A HYDRAULIC DAMPER MUST BE MODELLED AS A CHANGING FLOW NETWORK

Implications of Wen, Chen and Liu’s multi-scale damper model for motorcycle shim-stack analysis

Hydraulic dampers are often simplified into a small number of independent elements: a bleed circuit controls low-speed damping, a shim stack controls higher-speed damping, and the final damping force is treated as the sum of those contributions.

That representation is useful for basic tuning, but it becomes increasingly inadequate when the objective is to predict real damper behaviour from first principles.

A more physically defensible approach is to treat the damper as a coupled hydraulic and structural network whose dominant flow paths change continuously with pressure differential, piston velocity and valve displacement.

This interpretation is strongly supported by Wen, Chen and Liu (2025), who developed a multi-scale finite-element modelling method for hydraulic dampers operating across low-, medium- and high-velocity conditions.

Their work is particularly important because it does not attempt to force one simplified mathematical representation across the entire operating envelope. Instead, it recognises that the governing physical mechanisms change as the damper progresses from predominantly fixed-or***ce flow to significant valve deflection and fluid-structure interaction.

1. THE CONVENTIONAL SEPARATION BETWEEN “BLEED” AND “SHIM-STACK” DAMPING IS ARTIFICIAL

The familiar workshop explanation is that low-speed damping is controlled primarily by bleed and high-speed damping by the shim stack.

This is directionally useful, but hydraulically incomplete.

At any piston velocity, continuity requires the displaced oil volume to pass through all available flow paths:

Qp = Qb + Qv + Qo + Ql

Where:

Qp = piston-displaced flow

Qb = adjustable or fixed bleed flow

Qv = flow through the deflected shim-valve opening

Qo = other available or***ce or bypass flow

Ql = leakage or secondary flow paths

The critical point is that these quantities are not independent constants.

Each depends, directly or indirectly, on the pressure differential across the valve assembly.

Wen, Chen and Liu demonstrated this explicitly. Under low-velocity conditions, flow was principally controlled by throttling or***ces. Their analysis showed that both or***ce entrance area and or***ce length significantly influenced low-speed damping force.

Once sufficient pressure developed to open the deflecting valve system, however, the distribution of flow changed fundamentally. Most oil progressively transferred from the fixed-or***ce paths to the opening valve gaps.

That means the transition should not be thought of simply as:

BLEED → SHIM STACK

A better representation is:

BLEED DOMINATED → SHARED-FLOW TRANSITION → DEFLECTING-VALVE DOMINATED

The transition itself is part of the damping characteristic.

2. FLOW DISTRIBUTION IS A PRESSURE-DEPENDENT PROBLEM

For a simple bleed or***ce:

Qb = Cd × Ab × √(2ΔP / ρ)

Where:

Cd = discharge coefficient

Ab = effective bleed area

ΔP = pressure differential

ρ = fluid density

A shim valve introduces another restriction, except its effective area changes as the shims deflect.

Av = f(δ)

And:

δ = f(ΔP, shim stiffness, geometry, preload)

Therefore:

Qv = Cdv × Av(ΔP) × √(2ΔP / ρ)

The hydraulic network is now nonlinear in two ways.

Pressure affects flow directly, but pressure also changes the geometry of the valve by deflecting the shim stack.

This produces a feedback loop:

Pressure differential
→ shim force
→ shim deflection
→ valve opening area
→ valve flow
→ revised pressure differential

Or more simply:

ΔP → Fshim → δ → Av → Qv → ΔP

This is fluid-structure interaction.

The valve responds to the oil flow, but the valve movement also changes the oil flow.

3. SHIM-STACK STIFFNESS CANNOT BE CONSIDERED IN ISOLATION

Traditional shim-stack calculations concentrate heavily on structural stiffness.

For a circular shim treated as an annular plate, flexural rigidity can be represented by:

D = E × t³ / [12 × (1 - ν²)]

Where:

E = Young’s modulus

t = shim thickness

ν = Poisson’s ratio

The important relationship is:

D ∝ t³

This explains why relatively small changes in shim thickness can create large changes in stiffness.

But stiffness alone does not determine damping force.

The actual sequence is closer to:

Piston flow
→ pressure differential
→ shim loading
→ shim deflection
→ valve area
→ valve flow
→ new pressure differential

Two shim stacks with similar calculated stiffness can therefore produce different damping curves if they operate with different piston ports, seat diameters, bleed arrangements or downstream restrictions.

Likewise, the same shim stack can behave differently when installed on different piston geometries.

Wen, Chen and Liu found that valve-seat geometry and disc stiffness both materially affected damping in the valve-controlled region.

A shim stack should therefore not simply be considered a spring.

It is a pressure-controlled variable hydraulic restriction.

4. THE VALVE-OPENING THRESHOLD IS A TRANSITION, NOT A SINGLE VELOCITY

The “knee” in a damping curve is often associated with a particular piston velocity.

In reality, the knee emerges from the interaction between:

Piston flow

Pressure differential

Bleed flow

Valve preload

Shim stiffness

Valve opening area

A simplified opening condition can be expressed as:

ΔP × Ae ≥ Fpreload + Felastic

Where Ae is the effective pressure-loaded area.

But even when the shim begins to open, the bleed does not suddenly stop flowing.

Instead:

Qp = Qb + Qv

The proportion of total flow travelling through the shim valve progressively increases.

Valve-flow fraction:

Qv / Qp

Bleed-flow fraction:

Qb / Qp

The knee is therefore a FLOW REDISTRIBUTION REGION rather than a simple switching point.

5. BLEED REMAINS PART OF THE SYSTEM AFTER THE SHIM STACK OPENS

For parallel hydraulic paths:

Qtotal = Q1 + Q2 + Q3 + …

Every available pathway contributes according to its instantaneous hydraulic resistance.

A useful way to describe bleed authority is:

Bleed flow fraction = Qb / Qtotal

Likewise:

Valve flow fraction = Qv / Qtotal

These values change with:

piston velocity,
pressure differential,
clicker position,
shim displacement,
oil properties,
and valve geometry.

The damper therefore does not possess one flow path.

It contains a network of competing flow paths whose relative authority changes continuously.

6. REBOUND ADJUSTER BACKFLOW DURING COMPRESSION

This becomes particularly important in motorcycle shocks.

In a design without effective directional separation, compression movement may produce flow not only through the intended compression circuit but also through portions of the rebound-adjuster circuit.

Therefore:

Compression piston flow =
compression valve flow

* compression bleed flow
* rebound-circuit backflow
* other secondary flow

Or:

Qcompression = Qcompression-valve + Qcompression-bleed + Qrebound-backflow + Qother

If rebound backflow is not zero, then changing the rebound adjuster can alter the pressure required to achieve a given compression piston velocity.

Damper force is fundamentally related to pressure:

Fd ≈ ΔP × Ap

where Ap is the effective piston area.

Therefore a flow path through the rebound circuit can influence compression damping even though the adjuster is labelled “rebound”.

There is nothing mysterious about this cross-talk.

It is a hydraulic-network effect.

The more useful engineering question is:

During compression, which hydraulic paths connect the high-pressure and low-pressure control volumes, and what percentage of the displaced flow passes through each?

7. WHY SEPARATOR VALVES MATTER

A separator valve changes the topology of the hydraulic circuit according to flow direction.

Without effective separation:

Qtotal = Qintended + Qunintended

With effective directional separation:

Qunintended → approximately zero

This increases hydraulic independence between compression and rebound circuits.

The important design question is therefore not simply:

“Does the damper have a separator valve?”

The better question is:

“At what operating conditions does cross-flow become large enough to materially alter the intended damping characteristic?”

We can define a cross-flow ratio:

Cross-flow ratio = Qcross / Qtotal

If:

Qcross / Qtotal > Qb

However, that does not automatically mean the other flow paths are irrelevant.

Valve-seat geometry, shim stiffness and available port area become increasingly influential.

REGIME 4 — WHOLE-SYSTEM HIGH-FLOW BEHAVIOUR

At high piston velocities the result can additionally become influenced by:

piston-port capacity,
maximum valve lift,
flow contraction,
turbulence,
cavitation margin,
reservoir pressure,
oil aeration,
check-valve behaviour,
secondary flow paths,
pressure recovery,
and fluid/gas compressibility.

At this point it becomes particularly dangerous to interpret the damping curve purely as “shim-stack stiffness”.

11. THE ENGINEERING CONSEQUENCE

The major lesson from Wen, Chen and Liu is not simply that CFD or fluid-structure interaction can model a damper more accurately.

The deeper lesson is:

THE GOVERNING MECHANISM OF A HYDRAULIC DAMPER CHANGES ACROSS ITS OPERATING ENVELOPE.

For motorcycle suspension, the complete process is:

PISTON MOTION
→ REQUIRED DISPLACED FLOW
→ FLOW-PATH DISTRIBUTION
→ PRESSURE FIELD
→ SHIM DEFORMATION
→ NEW FLOW AREAS
→ REDISTRIBUTED FLOW
→ REVISED PRESSURE FIELD
→ DAMPING FORCE

That feedback loop is the real damper.

Shim-stack calculations remain extremely valuable, but they represent only the structural part of a substantially larger coupled problem.

CONCLUSION

Wen, Chen and Liu provide strong contemporary support for moving beyond the idea that hydraulic damping can always be reduced to an isolated bleed equation at low velocity and an isolated shim-stiffness calculation at higher velocity.

Their work demonstrates that fixed restrictions dominate one region, deformable valves increasingly dominate another, and the transition between them involves a fundamental redistribution of flow.

For motorcycle suspension engineering, this concept extends naturally to base valves, mid-valves, rebound adjusters, bleed circuits, check valves and separator valves.

These components should be regarded as parts of one pressure-driven hydraulic network.

Changing one component changes flow distribution.

Changed flow alters pressure.

Changed pressure alters shim loading.

Changed shim loading alters valve opening.

Changed valve opening redistributes flow again.

That feedback loop is the system we are actually trying to model.

The next step in high-fidelity motorcycle damper analysis is therefore not simply a better shim-stack equation.

It is the integration of plate theory, pressure-dependent valve displacement, bleed and adjuster flow, directional valve behaviour, whole-system continuity and dyno validation into one coupled model.

That is the point at which suspension tuning begins to move from empirical stack comparison toward predictive suspension engineering.

REFERENCE

Wen, H., Chen, X. and Liu, X. (2026), “A novel multi-scale finite element modeling method for high-precision analysis of hydraulic damper dynamics characteristics under full-operating conditions”, Proceedings of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers, Part D: Journal of Automobile Engineering, Vol. 240, No. 8, pp. 5330–5359. First published online 16 September 2025. DOI: 10.1177/09544070251368420.

France has been great, caught up with some old friends, visited some new spots, got some work done, and some racing to b...
14/08/2026

France has been great, caught up with some old friends, visited some new spots, got some work done, and some racing to boot.

Now it’s almost time to get back into the workshop, the sat morning setup is 100% pre booking only. As is Canberra pickup Monday morning.

See you all then, in the meantime enjoy the serenity.

Craig.

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09/08/2026

The undated work card is available on the web site. Makes life easier when we are getting to the bottom of things

07/08/2026

We spoke about how using incorrect spring rates for your use and weight last week is detrimental to your bikes handling, a big part of that reason is you, as an object, have mass and that mass is a massive percentage of the overall mass of the bike and rider so even small changes in rider mass therefore have a large percentage effect on the total mass and bike handling.

Let’s go the other way and talk about damping.

The raw equation for damping is simply mass .. X damping coefficient. X spring rate = 0

So the equation for spring rate uses (in part) the suspension travel and desired sag point. The equation for damping also uses suspension travel (in part) and this is because we are calculating current velocity over distance to zero velocity (in both compression and rebound) in the shortest time without oscillating (bouncing).

So we can work out the required damping targets at any velocity for any bike, the full equations are in the book and go into great depth down to the effect of change over different tyre weights, as I sprung weight, changes the required damping targets.

Where it all goes pear shaped is the rider.

Some riders like a firmer damping, some like it plush, some like a slow rebound (and this both dumbfounds me and causes lost traction) some like more spring and so on.

To a large extent, just like you can’t fix a bad spring Choise with clickers or preload, you can’t make a bad damping curve good again either.

Changing clickers does zero to change the shim stack, changing clickers merely changes the volume / velocity of the fluid through the clicker or***ce, so the suspension bleeds more or less in relation to the center point of the clicker range and that can be calculated using an or***ce equation.

The point at which clickers become useless is dependent on the or***ce size and the taper of the needle but work on once you get to (from all the way lightly closed) 3 clicks out or 3 clicks remaining, you need a shim change to bring the clickers back to center, and while most shops will charge for this, our customers we do it free of charge with either a service or if we have re valves the units for the original owner.

But. And this is a big BUT.

The springs you use need to be right for the use and weight.

And guys are terrible at this, if you are 75kg and you put on 10kg your suspension is going to feel soft and soggy, if you then screw the adjusters in to firm it up it will feel harsh, if you are 110kg and you loose 10kg and you unscrew the clickers to soften the bike, your bike is going to feel overly stiff and harsh.

Which brings into play the information you give your suspension shop dictates the quality of the work you get back. It’s just the way it is.

Have a great week

Craig.

Motorcycle / Mountain bike Suspension Specialist

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05/08/2026

I might be in Europe but I’m still working and one major update idea led to, yeh well it got out of hand considerably, needless to say a vast amount of updates, all the founders packages are sold but the rest of the pricing remains unchanged.

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We have traveled half way around the world to ride for Australia and now there is only a few more days and the chaos beg...
29/07/2026

We have traveled half way around the world to ride for Australia and now there is only a few more days and the chaos begins, European Championships next week then straight into 2 weeks of world championships.

Sometimes you’ve just got to dream big

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