3.8L EcoTec V6

3.8L EcoTec V6 Holden's 3.8L 90° OHV EcoTec V6 engine was manufactured in Australia at the "Fishermans Bend Plant"

People often wonder, what were the real main differences between VS - VT Series 2 & VX - VY Series 2 L36's ?Well the lis...
23/10/2019

People often wonder, what were the real main differences between VS - VT Series 2 & VX - VY Series 2 L36's ?

Well the list is more than people often were lead to believe.

Power changes were minimal from VS - VT then VX - VY

What changes were they ?

1. They did get an all new computer with faster processing speed, for starters.

2. VX's saw the introduction of newer pistons that were both stronger, lighter & assisted in their more "rev happy" nature compared to prior 3.8's, along with lowering friction, thus aiding in getting furthermore improved fuel efficiency.

3. Intake manifold was revised and different compared to VT's & prior. (Relocation of the PCV)

4. VX saw the introduction of individual spark control.

5. VY saw the oil sump capacity increased from around 5.3L - 5.5L (VX) bumped up to 6.5L (VY & VY Series 2)

6. Gone was the two piece rear main seal that plagued VT & earlier models which was replaced by a one piece rear main seal from VX - VYII.

7. Compression ratio remained unchanged at 9.4:1 (L36) or 8.5:1 (L67)

8. There was two differential ratios available throughout the lineup *automatic only*

3.08 (Open diff/Non-L*D)
or optional was the 3.07 (L*D)

9. Power outputs were highly underrated considering the further restrictive American versions made atleast 155kw & 320nm (L36)
L67's *US Spec* were knocking up around 180kw & 380'ish newton meters.

All power figures for L36 & L67 were based on mid-grade 95RON premium fuel, except minor power loss running low grade regular 91RON unleaded.
*L67 models are RECOMMENDED to run 95RON minimum*

Using OEM filters & plugs see's trouble free motoring !

14/09/2017

Interesting question for everyone.

Just how much do you all honestly know about the GM 3800 Series 2 (EcoTec) V6 ?
It would be intriguing to find out 😁

04/05/2015

300+ Likes and counting, lets keep the ball rolling towards target 1500

24/02/2015

Did you know that the ECOTEC V6 was very closly related by the parent company GM (General Motors)
They always made changes to the GM 3800 V6
Them changes also carry over to our engines
Could be a simple adjustment in the ECU to different style pistons

An image sent in by an owner, obviously proud to have something reliable and practically bulletproofLooking good, rather...
01/02/2015

An image sent in by an owner, obviously proud to have something reliable and practically bulletproof
Looking good, rather neat too Reece
Nice work, keep it up !!

03/01/2015

Introduction
The L67 was a supercharged 3.8-litre pushrod V6 petrol engine that was available in Holden vehicles from 1996 to 2004.
Developed by GM, the L67 engine was based on the naturally aspirated L36 but had several significant differences.
L67 block and internals

The L67 engine had the same cast iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps as the L36 engine.
The offset crankshaft was supported by four main bearings and counterbalanced by the flywheel/torque converter, crankshaft balancer and weights that were cast into the crankshaft itself. Compared to the L36, the L67 crankshaft had the same design but additional balancing due to its different pistons, rods and flywheel.

The camshaft was supported in the crankcase by four bearings and driven from the crankshaft by sprockets and chain. The L67 engine had the same camshaft as the L36, but its cam-gear was in the advanced position to advance timing by approximately two (2) degrees.

To reduce inertial forces, the L67 had a balance shaft within the block that was positioned above and parallel to the camshaft; the L67 balance shaft could be identified by its four lubrication holes at the rear bushing end.

Relative to the L36, the L67 engine had 1 inch (25.4 mm) shorter connecting rods. Furthermore, the dished pistons
Were 1 inch taller;
Had increased diameter gudgeon pins;
Had low-friction, ceramic-coated skirts; and,
Had hard-anodised crowns and top ring lands to reflect heat back into the combustion chamber.
L36 cylinder head
The cylinder head for the L36 engine was redesigned and had symmetric ports and combustion chambers. Furthermore, the new intake manifold had smoother internal passages and provided greater air flow, while the exhaust manifold and connecting pipes were designed to minimise the heat and noise for quieter running.

M90 supercharger
The L67 engine had an Eaton 'Generation III' M90 supercharger that was belt-driven from the crankshaft by a 3.8-inch pulley. The Eaton M90 supercharger had a three-lobe, twin rotor design with a 60-degree helical twist and could displace 90 cubic feet per minute (2548.5 litres per minute). For Holden vehicles, the M90 supercharger provided peak boost of 6 psi (0.41 bar).

L67 cylinder head
The cylinder head for the L67 engine was redesigned and had symmetric ports and combustion chambers. Unlike the L36 engine, the cylinder head for the L67 had bosses machined for the injectors which fired into the head intake runners – for the L36, the injectors were mounted in the plenum intake runners, further away from the chamber.

The L67 engine also had a larger throttle body and longer intake pipe; for VS models, an over the radiator (OTR) cold air intake (CAI) was also fitted.

L67 valves
Like the L36, the L67 engine had pushrod-operated overhead valves (OHV) with two valves per cylinder. The tubular pushrods operated overhead rocker arms which pivoted on pedestals that were bolted to the cylinder head. In addition to the normal function as a cam-follower, each hydraulic valve lifter served as an automatic adjuster so that manual valve adjustment was not required. Furthermore, the hydraulic valve lifters maintained zero lash in the valve train under all operating conditions.

As per the L36 engine, valve sizes were as follows –
Intake valves: 45.72 mm diameter (1.80 inches); and,
Exhaust valves: 38.61 mm diameter (1.52 inches).

L67 injection and ignition

The L67 engine had sequential fuel injectors, though its fuel system differed from the L36 in that it had:

》 Two-speed 37 mm diameter roller vane-type pump, rather than the L36’s 37 mm diameter turbine-style pump

》 Unique fuel rail
》 Higher-flow injectors that could provide 36 lbs per hour (4.54 grams per second), compared to 22 lbs per hour (2.77 grams per second) for the L36

** Premium unleaded petrol (PULP) was recommended with a minimum octane rating of 95RON **

Furthermore, the L67 engine had platinum spark plugs and a lower compression ratio of 8.5:1 (9.4:1 for the L36).

Other L67 changes
Compared to the L36, other changes for the L67 included:

》 Different rocker covers to suit the high-flow injectors

》 Stronger and 13 mm larger torque converter
》 Transmission cooler
》 Relocated thermostat
》 Heat shield for the starter motor
》 Three coolant bleed valves
》 Different wiring loom
》 Different ECU

03/01/2015

Introduction

The L36 was a 3.8-litre pushrod V6 petrol engine that was used in Holden vehicles from 1995 to 2004.
Although the L36 'ECOTEC’ engine retained the 90-degree 'V' cylinder banks, 96.5 mm bores, 86.3 mm stroke and 3791 cc capacity of its LN3 predecessor, the L36 engine was a significant redesign and the changes provided freer-revving characteristics, greater power and quieter operation.

L36 block
Compared to its LN3 predecessor, the L36’s cast iron block had a shorter deck height for more compact packaging and mass reduction (4 kg); cross-bolted main bearing caps were also introduced for greater rigidity and quieter running.

L36 internals
The L36 engine had an offset crankshaft that was supported by four main bearings and counterbalanced by the flywheel/torque converter, crankshaft balancer and weights that were cast into the crankshaft itself.

The camshaft was supported in the crankcase by four bearings and driven from the crankshaft by sprockets and chain. To reduce inertial forces, the L36 had a balance shaft within the block that was positioned above and parallel to the camshaft. Compared to the LN3, however, the balance shaft’s front roller bearing was replaced with a pressure-lubricated sleeve bearing in the L36 engine for quieter running.

A significant development for the L36 engine were lighter internals that reduced rotating mass sot that the engine could rev more freely and develop more power at higher engine speeds; maximum engine speed for the L36 was 6000 rpm. As such, 1 inch (25.4 mm) shorter cast-steel connecting rods were introduced (also attributable to the shorter deck height), the crankshaft was redesigned and lightweight pistons were introduced which had floating pins and low-tension rings.

L36 cylinder head
The cylinder head for the L36 engine was redesigned and had symmetric ports and combustion chambers. Furthermore, the new intake manifold had a removable top lid, and smoother internal passages which provided greater air flow. A new tubular exhaust manifold was introduced - replacing the previous cast iron unit that was susceptible to cracking - and the connecting pipes were also redesigned to minimise heat and noise for quieter running.

L36 valves
Like the LN3, the L36 engine had pushrod-operated overhead valves (OHV) with two valves per cylinder. The tubular pushrods operated overhead rocker arms which pivoted on pedestals that were bolted to the cylinder head. In addition to the normal function as a cam-follower, each hydraulic valve lifter served as an automatic adjuster so that manual valve adjustment was not required. Furthermore, the hydraulic valve lifters maintained zero lash in the valve train under all operating conditions.

The L36 engine, however, had more aggressive valve timing for greater power and larger valves – The intake valves had a 45.72 mm diameter (1.80 inches, previously 1.72 inches); and,
The exhaust valves had a 38.61 mm diameter (1.52 inches, previously 1.43 inches).

L36 injection and ignition
Significantly, the L36 engine introduced sequential fuel injection and its injectors could operate at 22 lbs per hour (2.77 grams per second).

Other changes included:

》128k ECU for models with automatic and manual transmissions.

》 A mass airflow meter replaced the L27's Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor

》 Dual knock sensors for optimum spark timing and protection against detonation

》Compression ratio was also raised to 9.4:1 (compared to 9.0:1 for the L27 in Holden's VR range).

Other changes that were introduced for the L36 engine included:

》 Larger throttle body

》 More rigidly mounted external accessories (i.e. the alternator, power steering pump, AC compressor) for quieter operation

》 The oil pan, crankshaft and water pump seals were improved to prevent leaks

》 A contrained-layer oil pan design (sound-deadening material between two layers of steel) reduced noise at the bottom of the engine

》 A foam-lined top acoustic cover reduced injector and intake noise and,
A flexible coupling was fitted between the downpipe and catalytic converter.

L36 developments
For Holden’s VS range, the L36 engine had two temperature sensors in the manifold; with the introduction of the VT range, however, only one temperature sensor was used and exhaust gas recirculation was introduced to reduce tailpipe emissions.
For the VT range, the ECU was also revised such that the 3-2 downshift solenoid was pulse width modulated for smoother gearshifts.

For Holden’s VX, VU and WH models, peak power increased from 147kW to 152kW. These changes were attributable to:

》 A new die-cast inlet manifold (which had a centrally located crankcase ventilation outlet)

》 New pistons
》 New ECU for individual cylinder spark control.

Other changes at this time included a
》New design propshaft with dual rubber couplings
》 Larger idle air control valve, improved idle quality and improved distribution of crankcase ventilation gases between cylinders for better spark control.

Holden L36 engine output's

Years
L36 3.8-litre petrol V6
147kW at 5200rpm
304Nm at 3600rpm

VS Commodore,
VS Calais 1995-97
VS Statesman,
VS Caprice 1995-99
VS Ute 1995-00
VT Commodore,
VT Calais 1997-00
WH Statesman,
WH Caprice 1999-00

L36 3.8-litre petrol V6 (Update)
152kW at 5200rpm
305Nm at 3600rpm

VX Commodore,
VX Berlina,
VX Calais 2000-02
WHII Statesman,
WHII Caprice 2000-03
VU Ute 2000-02
VY Commodore,
VY Berlina,
VY Calais,
VY Ute 2002-04
WK Statesman,
WK Caprice,
VY One Tonner 2003-04

17/09/2014

The ECOTEC V6 is an american design engine, sourced through GM for Holden
With it's design based off the old 3.5L Aluminium Buick V6 back in 1962, you can see it's quite an old engine

GM kept this same engine in production up until 2008, it had gone through some pretty big changes in it's life, it had proven to be one of GM's most reliable V6 engines

Here in Australia it's marketed as the "ECOTEC" engine, based off the GM 3800 Series 2

For those who are wondering, ECOTEC actually stands for

E - Emissions
C - Control
O - Optimisation
TEC - Technology

At first from the VS - VTII, on paper they produced 147kw (199.8hp) @ 5200rpm, and a pretty adequate 304nm @ 3600rpm
All naturally aspirated engines ran a 9.4:1 Compression Ratio
There was an optional Supercharged version which produced 165kw (224hp) @ 5200rpm, and a much more healthy 370nm @ 3200rpm
The Supercharged variant ran an 8.5:1 Compression Ratio
All engines had a 5900rpm cutout/limiter, were also paired with GM's 4L60-E Electronically Controled 4-Speed Automatic
Dual Mode, Normal & Power

When the VT was introduced, power & torque on the Supercharged variant was raised to 171kw (232hp) @ 5200rpm & 375nm @ 3000rpm
Compression was still at 8.5:1 for the Supercharged variant

Power & Torque remained unchanged in the Naturally Aspirated variant

The new VX brought updates to the naturally aspirated variant, which raised power slightly, improved fuel ecconomy, lowered emissions & improved transmission programming, the VY was the last series to feature the 3.8L EcoTec V6

Final years of use in Australia, they made 152kw (206hp) @ 5200rpm & 305nm @ 3600rpm
Still running a 9.4:1 Compression Ratio

At the end of the day, it was the best 6cyl engine to be used by Holden in my eyes

17/09/2014

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